Accessibility/IAccessible2/Minutes/20080722
From The Linux Foundation
IAccessible2 SIG Conference Call Minutes 2008/07/22
- Regrets: none
- Attendees: Pete Brunet, Mick Curran, Jamie Teh, Marco Zehe, Mike Squillace, Janina Sajka, Aaron Leventhal
- Last meeting minutes - pending approval
- AccProbe - Mike Squillace
- AccProbe 0.4.1 has been released. The major addition is that focus is tracked on a global basis rather than having ot enable it on an app by app basis. AccProbe 0.4.2 should be available in about a month.
- Mike asks that people use it and open bugs for bugs not in the current list of AccProbe bugs.
- Firefox - Marco Zehe, Aaron Leventhal
- Static text: FF would like to expose list prefixes (numbers, bullets) as static text rather than as a list attribute like Symphony does. Other examples of static text are footnote references and text inserted via CSS before/after.
- MC: There is a difference in the case where there is no caret movement and text that can't be changed. Static text implies the latter but this is more for the former so the a different name should be considered.
- JT: There are three cases
- can move caret through text, i.e. the common case
- can only move caret to the first character, e.g. a date field in Symphony
- can't move the caret at all, e.g. list item bullets/numbers
- MZ: Could use static:all, static:first, static:none to cover 3 cases
- JT: In support of the static attribute, run information would be available
- Default attributes: Attributes that have a default value should not have to be included in the attribute string, e.g. font style normal, font weight 500.
- See the Mozilla documentation.
- Note that in Linux there are also defaults but those defaults are not as defined in a specification but are as defined by the document, view, or UA. If interested you can peruse the AT-SPI spec.
- There was an earlier discussion about changing IA2 default text attributes to match ATK/AT-API, but this was dropped. For some history see item 6 in the minutes from January 8th.
- IA2 Proxy DLL
- After Pete incorporates Jamie's patch for improving the typlib spec Jamie will also attach the DLL NVDA built to bug 110.
- Concern about adding new interfaces to IDL.
- This doesn't appear to be an issue. New interfaces should not impact existing interfaces.
- Solution for spelling and grammar errors.
- Like OpenOffice, Firefox also has to manufacture these attributes.
- Arrange a meeting with the OpenOffice team to discuss.
- Solution for smart tags
- In MS Word you hear "smart tag" for smart tags and "link" for links.
- Should consider an object attribute on the accessibles created to represent the hyperlinks. The object attribute would differentiate between a link and a smart tag.
- Proposed interface to support revisions
- The ARIA team should also review this.