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Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20080205
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Open A11y Working Group Conference Call (5 February 2008)
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Participants
- Janina Sajka (JS/chair)
- Stew Benedict (SB)
- Pete Brunet (PB)
- Vladmir Bulatov (VB/View Plus)
- Calvin Gainsford (CG/Novell)
- Gregory J. Rosmaita (GJR/scribe)
- Niel Soiffer (NS/chair, Expert Handlers SIG)
- regrets: Willie Walker
For Reference
Preliminary Items
Summary of Action Items Assigned at the 2008-01-29 Open A11y Conference Call
ACTION GJR: investigate date:FOO syntax in RDFa and Dublin Core
status: continued -- will create wiki page for issue
Review of Resoulutions from the 2008-01-29 Open A11y Conference Call
- the minutes from the 22 January 2008 Open A11y Call were approved without objection
- ATK/AT-SPI SIG's "Mission Statement" approved
- ATK/AT-SPI SIG Overview page text approved
Approval of Past Minutes
- Minutes from 29 January 2008 Open A11y Call
- approved without objection
Meeting Minutes for 5 February 2008
Note: These minutes have not yet been finalized.
Topic 1: Unified Use Cases for Expert Handlers, version 1.0
Introduction to Expert Handlers: Neil Soiffer, chair Expert Handlers SIG
JS: background of Expert Handlers concept; Neil Soiffer (NS) from Design Science approached the IAccessible2 workgroup to address specialized knowledge domain markup; seeking standard way to reference knowledge-specific domain markup -- decided in IAccessible2 that this is a problem across all OSs and ATs and that Open A11y should move on this legitimate request to call for a subgroup to form in order to draft a set of unified use cases to define the problem and point towards where the solution might lie
NS: Design Science has designed interfaces to make math accessible but there remain 2 problems:
- the need for a private agreement with Design Science and individual AT developers each of which have to be approached individually;
- AT vendors want assurance that there is a standardized, and not proprietary interface;
NS: approached IAccessible2 workgroup first, because IA2 provides access to material, but that material is not necessarily useful to an AT because specialized material is incomprehensible and unmanageable to AT; the question then arose: where does such a standard belong? between document and expert handler or between an AT and an expert handler; developed use cases and areas that need to be addressed in math and other areas: music, chemistry, biology, genomics, etc.; hopefully at end will come up with standards that Open A11y can endorse
NS: have people had a chance to read the document? -- i could guide those on the call through the document
JS: useful to review at high level -- trying to ascertain if covered obvious use cases -- want objective opinions and where next steps may be; we will approach AT vendors individually to find what they need
Scribe's Note: NS provides guided tour of Unified Use Cases for Expert Handlers, version 1.0 (UUC1)
GJR: please note that there is also a wiki page which serves as a catch-all for ideas and issues which were brought to light by the Expert Handlers SIG's investigation of expert handlers use cases
NS: the reality of the situation is that while the overall AT market may be a niche market, its customers need to use math on a daily basis; every day there is a math class or science class, for which the materials need to be accessible to all students, but the AT developers stance has always been -- "tell us what we need to do to plug into a standard interface for specialized content" so that they don't need to provide support for all possible custom XML dialects and specialized markup languages
Discussion of UUC1
JS: procedural side -- any objections to publishing document?
Scribe's Note: none logged.
JS: any objection to the SIG moving forward to requirements and specifications? in past haven't delved into developing new technology in the way that expert handlers provides
Scribe's Note: none logged
NS: trying to produce platform-agnostic standard modular interface for expert handler and its interaction with AT
JS: hearing no objections -- thank you to the authors: Pete Brunet, Vladmir Bulatov, Gregory Rosmaita, and Neil Soiffer {scribe's internal note: Janina was too modest -- she played a major role in the authorship and editing of UUC1} -- you did quite well to outline the use cases
NS: so-called edge cases not likely to be picked up natively by users; but the point is it is not just for scientists and mathematicians, but for kindergarten-through-twelfth grade education (primary education), secondary education, and higher education
JS: specificity in APIs capable of exposing, need stable mechanism to communicate specificity to AT in way that AT can usefully present to end user
GJR: in addition to minutes announcement will send finalized draft as seperate post to the main accessibility list
JS: CSUN will be a key place for us to obtain feedback on UUC1-- there is an expert handlers panel session at CSUN2008
Topic 2: Website Update
GJR: minor updates to the:
GJR: new, more accessible, public working draft of the Table of AT-SPI Events; awaiting review and possible update from original author, Pete Parente (IBM);
GJR: Accessible Document Interfaces and Navigation drafts still need revision and an owner -- please assist in the updating and double-checking by using the following resources:
- Accessible Document Interfaces Using ATK wiki page
- Accessible Document Navigation Using AT-SPI wiki page
GJR: still working on templates and guidelines for Open A11y documents
New Business
JS: other items?
Identify Topics for the 12 February 2008 Teleconference
The next Open Accessibility conference call is 12 February 2008, which will be dedicated to the discussion of AT-SPI on D-Bus and the Collection Interface; there will probably not be a meeting on 19 February 2008 and definitely no meeting 26 February 2008
Wrap Up
Summary of New Action Items
Summary of Continued Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
- The Open A11y Workgroup officially approved Unified Use Cases for Expert Handlers, version 1.0 as a finalized document.
- The Open A11y Workgroup authorized the Expert Handlers SIG to move forward with drafting requirements and specifications.
- meeting adjourned 1940h UTC
- next Open Accessibility conference call: 2008-02-12